tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post1089178790264901412..comments2023-10-06T11:50:42.171+01:00Comments on Rector's Ramblings: Andy GrayFr Kennyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09825687159958396082noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-90021229612060812382011-01-30T19:44:18.476+00:002011-01-30T19:44:18.476+00:00The captcha I had to fill in to make this comment ...The captcha I had to fill in to make this comment was "mings" which is just about what Gray's and Keys's views do.<br />The trouser remark was harassment pure and simple and would not be acceptable in any modern workplace, I'd have thought. <br />To deride a woman official - who must know the laws of the game rather better than most players, pundits and probably, actually, most male refs - purely for being a woman is not merely antediluvian, it's almost prehistoric and is disparaging to <strong>all</strong> qualified officials.<br />And do not Keys's remarks about Karen Brady show the depth of his contempt for women in football and by implication women in general?Jack Deightonhttp://jackdeighton.co.uknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-56784814188370228002011-01-28T22:56:02.788+00:002011-01-28T22:56:02.788+00:00Missed all this when I was darn sahth - but must l...Missed all this when I was darn sahth - but must leap in at the end to say I was delighted when he was sacked by an employer known to be progressive in its views. You know what happens when someone with a public persona makes a gaffe - and a gaffe like this latest one wasn't likely to be a one-off, was it? Casual bigotry in all areas of life has to be resisted if we're going to make any progress. <br /><br />There! Rant over - and despite the fact that I canny stand footy, I <i>do</i> understand the offside rule. It's not exactly rocket science, after all ...<br /><br />;-)Christine McIntoshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14198224025775398453noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-6902834046729828922011-01-27T16:17:47.237+00:002011-01-27T16:17:47.237+00:00Clever dug!Clever dug!fr dougalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-27231852134367129302011-01-27T11:48:15.115+00:002011-01-27T11:48:15.115+00:00Having been chastised by the RW, and indeed, too, ...Having been chastised by the RW, and indeed, too, by my friend Simon Barrow (http://onlyjustoffside.blogspot.com/2011/01/why-just-banter-defence-is-pathetic-and.html) I will now cede the point.<br /><br />I do this after the pathetic attempt by Richard Keys yesterday when he tried to make everything OK, failed, and later resigned.<br /><br />I asked Archie, today, what he thought, as the only other male in this household, and he growled something like, "Let sleeping dogs lie!"Fr Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09825687159958396082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-23072572279286875802011-01-27T10:49:03.444+00:002011-01-27T10:49:03.444+00:00The comments made show the measure of the man, so ...The comments made show the measure of the man, so the offside rule becomes irrelevant. They put him into the category that I call 'Yucky'. <br />I am sure that the lady in the dangling mic incident has, like many of us, learned to ignore such comments made by guys who often know no other way of speaking to women. That doesn't stop such 'banter' being unacceptable.<br /><br />Not understanding the off-side rule isn't about being female, it's about only going for the pies and that makes the jokes ok.<br /><br />RWRWnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-61642539059319872272011-01-27T07:39:49.125+00:002011-01-27T07:39:49.125+00:00I still reckon Andy Gray is no worse than a lot of...I still reckon Andy Gray is no worse than a lot of the rest of the population. <br /><br />If every person at my former workplace who ever made a sexist comment, most of them considerably worse than any of these Andy Gray comments, had been sacked then the office would have been close to empty within a few days.Moragnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-75618067725100017472011-01-26T23:44:19.478+00:002011-01-26T23:44:19.478+00:00I've seen the video of the trouser offence. It...I've seen the video of the trouser offence. It was meant to be an offline remark which was banter among "friends".<br /><br />Sugar! Am I about to be sacked for this comment. My wife, like other intelligent women, doesn't understand the offside rule. We laugh about that. The RW, (OMG is that a slight?) admits that she only goes for the pies!<br /><br />Let's get real guys!Fr Kennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09825687159958396082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-88670127730170014302011-01-26T22:57:46.688+00:002011-01-26T22:57:46.688+00:00Kinda agree with Simon - yer man ought to be aware...Kinda agree with Simon - yer man ought to be aware he lives in a fairly PC media culture and this sort of behaviour plays very badly with yer chardonnay swigging meeja types. And working for Murdoch? If ye flee wi' the craws ye'll get shot wi' the craws!fr dougalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06505160310703978020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-86332776061151799072011-01-26T19:35:32.964+00:002011-01-26T19:35:32.964+00:00Sorry, disagree. Gray and Keys' comments were ...Sorry, disagree. Gray and Keys' comments were bigoted, offensive and pathetic. The tipping point between a warning and a sacking was the video of Gray dangling his mic and telling fellow presenter Charlotte Jackson to "tuck this in for me, love" as he gestured towards his trousers. Sexism is not a trivial matter, and sadly it's endemic in football. Murdoch's minions may be hypocrites, but they are not wrong to act on this, they're wrong not to act on other things they do.Simon Barrowhttp://onlyjustoffside.blogspot.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2425467714938541430.post-21339078367864996272011-01-26T13:16:04.420+00:002011-01-26T13:16:04.420+00:00As a female, I totally agree! Especially as he did...As a female, I totally agree! Especially as he didn't even make the comments on air but in what he presumed was a private conversation!!Moragnoreply@blogger.com